The Wine Collector

Practical wine collecting advice from Steve Bachmann, Vinfolio's CEO

 
14
Jan
2007

How to value fine wine – Part 1

Categories: Valuing wine
Nature of the wine valuation problem

Establishing the current value of your wine collection is more difficult than valuing a public securities portfolio. Even relatively illiquid securities have a quoted bid-ask price which can be used as an “arms-length” fair market value. Valuing wine is more complicated because:

  1. Every combination of a wine name, vintage, and bottle size represents a unique item to be valued (even if one ignores condition issues) which generates an enormous number of items.
  2. The produced quantity of any item is often quite small, which limits the potential transactions which can be measured to benchmark a value.
  3. Transaction data is not centralized in one place. The best sources are wine search engines like Winesearcher.com for retail asking prices and Vinfolio’s Wine Price File for major auction house transaction data.

The difference between transaction prices and asking prices

Normally, the basis for establishing fair market value for any item uses transaction data as this means that the buyer and seller ultimately agreed on a price. Retail prices shown on Winesearcher.com are asking prices and are usually higher than completed transaction values from auctions.

A retail asking price is not a confirmation that a wine is selling. Moreover, some retailers routinely start with a high price and then gradually reduce the price over time if a wine does not sell. Therefore, at any given time, one has no idea whether the retail prices quoted on Winesearcher actually represent prices at which a wine is being successfully sold (which is the true test of fair market value).

How does one reconcile these differences given that all wine is not sold at auction and retail data is more abundant? In part 2 of this topic, I’ll address how Vinfolio has tackled this issue in our free VinCellar online cellar management software.

22 comments:

I have about 200 assorted bottles of different assorted Italian ( mostly Italian) and French wine dating from 1954 a barolo from giouseppe contratto canelli till 1974 a borgogna Barizey saone Loire ( France)
How do I get a vautation of each wine?

Posted by Linds at Thursday July 5, 2007

A bottle of Vosne-Romanee MALCONSORTS GRAND VIN DE BEURGOGNE was donated to our Foundation for a silent auction. I would like to find out its value. Thank you!

Posted by Donna Shaw at Tuesday July 10, 2007

We have been given three bottles of wine for a charity auction. What is the value, or are they way past?
1 jeroboam 1990 Robert Talbott Monterey Chardonnay
1 jeroboam 1980 Joseph Phelps Vineyards Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon
1 jeroboam 1989 Sonoma-Cutter Founders Reserve Chardonnay, No. 47 of 250 bottles
Thank you.

Posted by Carole at Wednesday July 18, 2007

I have a sealed bottle of Vinho Verde Tamegao 1liter bottled by Companhia Portuguesa de Licores. Can you tell me what this bottle is worth. Thank you

Posted by Fred Winters at Thursday September 20, 2007

I have 1 bottle 1965 Chateau Semillon (Wente Bros. Winery) and 1 bottle 1988 Georges Dubeuf Chardonnay. I needed help finding their value.

Posted by Kim at Saturday October 27, 2007

I HAVE A BOTTLE OF 1973 ANTINORI BIANCO DELLA COSTA TOSCANA IN THE GREEN FISH BOTTLE
AND
1971 BESSI CHIANTI IN THE GREEN EAGLE BOTTLE (THERE IS ALOT OF ITALIAN WRITTING ON IT) THERE IS A STICKER ON THE BACK OF IT THAT SAYS IMPORTED BY CARLO KOVARICH LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA 90032

DO U KNOW IF THESE R WORTH ANYTHING?

Posted by JENNIFER BOYLES at Thursday November 1, 2007

Have two bottle of 1964 Rheingau Rudesheimer Kiesel.Would like to find the value.Also would like to sell.

Posted by pat oneal at Saturday November 24, 2007

I have a bottle of 1992 Clos Joanne D'orion Pouilly-Fume'.
Apellation-Gitton Pe're & Fils from Loire, France. 750 ml. How much is it worth please?!

Posted by Kelly Hendricks at Thursday November 29, 2007

i have two bottles of 1983 german wine and have no idea of their value, if any. one bottle is Reingau Schloss Schonborn erbacher marcobrunn riesland auslese; the other is mosel 0 saar0ruwer scharxhofberger auslese riesling. can you tell me who or where to direct that question.

Posted by joan secatore at Sunday December 30, 2007

I have a bottle of wine.It is Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classe CHATEAU L'ANGELUS 1984 #50832.I dont want to drink it.It might be worth some money.

Posted by wes ratajczak at Sunday April 6, 2008

I have a bottle of 1973 Stint-Louis Beujolais wine. Could you tell me the value of this wine and if is still a good bottle.

Posted by Carol Rygaard at Tuesday April 8, 2008

Hi I was recently given a bottle of wine by my in-laws. It is a 1979 Bourgogne Blanc Jadot, Reserve des Jacobins, from Louis Jadot. I have been trying to find out if we should drink it, hold on to it for a special occasion or hold on to it for a while.

Is the bottle worth anything?

Thank you
Ben

Posted by Ben at Saturday May 17, 2008

I have 1 bottle of Cuvee Dom Perignon, vintage 1969. The bottle is sealed and in a dark green bottle. The seal is gold in color. I am looking for the value?

Posted by Anonymous at Tuesday May 20, 2008

In 1979 I bought a bottle of Inglenook Cabernet Sauvignon. The label says "Vintage 1979 Estate Bottled" It came in a very nice metal box. Anybody have an idea of the value

Posted by Don Richmond at Sunday June 15, 2008

I see a lot of questions but no replies, so I'm not sure if I'm looking in the right place. I also have a
1973 ANTINORI BIANCO DELLA COSTA TOSCANA IN THE GREEN FISH BOTTLE never opened. Is there any value? I bought it today at a garage sale along with a lladro horses group, which I found to be worth a nice sum. I love garage sales! Thank you in advance for any response.

Posted by Deb at Saturday August 9, 2008

I have a bottle of Chateau Mouton Rothschild 1973 that was kept in my parents cellar. Can you tell me what it is worth-should I just drink it and enjoy? It has a great label by Picasso on it...

Posted by John Bissell at Tuesday September 9, 2008

Hi there,
I live in London and have a few botles of wine that I would like valued. I will mention 2 of them as examples:
1)1972 Grand Vin du chateau phelan segur, saint estephe
2)1978 Chateau La Croix de berny Puisseguin saint emilion
Please can you help me ?
Best wishes
Lucy

Posted by lucy at Saturday October 11, 2008

Hi
Could you please tell me the best way to get a message to wine collectors about a bottle of wine that is up for charity auction on the Durhams Auctions site Hawkes Bay New Zealand. This is a specialty Hawkes Bay wine Signed by the late Sir Edmund Hillary.
Many Thanks Kathy Maidens

Posted by Kathy Maidens at Monday November 3, 2008


I have a few botles of wine that I would like valued. I will mention 2 of them as examples:
1)1972 Grand Vin du chateau phelan segur, saint estephe
2)1978 Chateau La Croix de berny Puisseguin saint emilion
Please can you help me ?

Posted by Lucy at Thursday November 13, 2008

Lucy, I saw your inquiry elsewhere so I will answer your question specifically.

In the general market your wines are worth pretty much nothing. There may be some fan of Phelan Segur looking to fill a hole in a vertical with this undrinkable 1972.

For the rest of you, more than half of you own wines that are worth nothing.

Posted by FNA at Thursday November 20, 2008

I have some limited edition Salvador Dali lables on 1982 Cordtz Brothers Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon Alexander Valley. I think the value is more in the Art on the lable as a cellar collection. How do I get a value for a bottle?

Posted by Michael Kerr at Friday January 23, 2009

Hi there,

I bought a bottle of wine in Lille several years ago now - 1966 J.Faiveley Bourgogne and would be interested to know its value now?
Thanks,
Kelly

Posted by Kelly-Marie Young at Friday June 19, 2009






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